I don't interpret Saturn as bad, although I understand that this narrative is alive and well, and resonates with many. I read Saturn as the ruler of our physical world, cause and effect and "karma" so to say. What we put in we get back. In my perspective Saturn needs us to put in the work and then we see the results. When Jupiter and Saturn come together, it's a physical manifestation of Jupiter's energy of possibility. It doesn't it won't happen without any hard work on our part though. I appreciate your response, and know that my interpretations are not always aligned with traditional astrology. In my books, there are no bad planets and nothing is against us, so from here I developed my understanding of Saturn. That being said, I don't think that I am necessarily "right" or that someone who views Saturn as bad is "wrong". I feel it's whatever we choose to make of it. Thanks for reading and responding!